Portfolio Management Conference Recap Part 3: Markets, Memes & Money Moves

January 07, 2025 | Todd Kennedy


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PORTFOLIO MANAGEMENT CONFERENCE JANUARY 2025 Part 3

  • Tom Lee (pictured below) is the CEO of Fundstrat.  He spoke at 4PM on Day 2 and people were lined up outside to get selfies with him so I guess that means that he is kind of a big deal.
  • Tom Lee’s 2025 Year Ahead Forecast
  • He is looking for a good first half to 2025 then tapering off the second half (a bit lower in December than in June)
  • Talked a lot about what happens the year after back to back 20% gains but not a lot of samples to get data from
  • Year end target for S&P 500 of 6600 is 22 times $300 earnings per share for 2026
  • He likes bitcoin and small caps so not for the faint of heart
  • Strong stock market is important to Trump
  • 2025 will be a tale of two halves
  • DOGE will be effective.  Risk may be that it is too effective
  • Tariffs and deportations not priced into market
  • Mag 7 names too overcrowded
  • Manufacturing numbers went down in 2020 (below the key metric of 50) and never recovered
  • Fed may make mistakes later this year
  • Political divisiveness a headwind

 

Bianco Research Look Forward to 2025

  • Economies recover differently after each recession
  • Yet, capitalist economies want to grow
  • Rates will be higher FOREVER
  • Some ratios valuing US market are highest we’ve ever seen
  • Stocks won’t drastically outperform bonds the next decade so why take on the risk?
  • Bonds used to be disaster insurance but now they actually can provide a return
  • Companies aren’t going public because it is a hassle so this will lead to more private credit and alternative investing opportunities
  • They have a US$ bond ETF that I will take a look at

 

Alternative Investing Panel

  • You will be hearing more about this from us as the space becomes more ‘retail investor’ friendly
  • 4 main areas – 1) Private equity, 2) Private credit, 3) Absolute return (long / short), 4) Opportunistic
  • They are doing things we can’t do like shorting a sector, taking activist positions
  • Picton Mahoney was part of panel and said equities have outperformed the usual soft-landing narrative
  • US household equity ownership at prior market peaks
  • Market pricing in good news and inflation story is not over

 

Veritas

  • Veritas acts more of less like a forensic accountant but they do have macro views
  • The S&P 500 is up based on multiple expansion and this weighs on seven companies
  • Earnings expectations are high
  • Canadian market relatively cheap
  • Inflation could be stickier than expected
  • The yield curve has un-inverted
  • Neither the bond or equity market seems concerned with the 2 points above
  • Earnings and growth expectations are bullish
  • NVDA investing in ‘customers’ who are then buying product from NVDA.  Seems odd
  • S&P 500 up 53% since low of Oct 2022, 7% of this is earnings and 46% is multiple expansion

 

Retained learnings

  • Avoid embarrassing losses (does this mean they are OK if not embarrassing?)
  • Being negative is alluring because you sound smart (even when you are wrong)
  • Being early is like being wrong
  • Stay humble

AND:

  • If something sounds too good to be true, it probably is (there is no free lunch especially with investing)
  • Cash flow more important than earnings (top line vs bottom line)
  • Notes in financial statements more important than management commentary
  • Emotions have no place in investment decisions
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Regards,

 

Todd Kennedy