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PORTFOLIO MANAGEMENT CONFERENCE JANUARY 2025 Part 3
- Tom Lee (pictured below) is the CEO of Fundstrat. He spoke at 4PM on Day 2 and people were lined up outside to get selfies with him so I guess that means that he is kind of a big deal.
- Tom Lee’s 2025 Year Ahead Forecast
- He is looking for a good first half to 2025 then tapering off the second half (a bit lower in December than in June)
- Talked a lot about what happens the year after back to back 20% gains but not a lot of samples to get data from
- Year end target for S&P 500 of 6600 is 22 times $300 earnings per share for 2026
- He likes bitcoin and small caps so not for the faint of heart
- Strong stock market is important to Trump
- 2025 will be a tale of two halves
- DOGE will be effective. Risk may be that it is too effective
- Tariffs and deportations not priced into market
- Mag 7 names too overcrowded
- Manufacturing numbers went down in 2020 (below the key metric of 50) and never recovered
- Fed may make mistakes later this year
- Political divisiveness a headwind
Bianco Research Look Forward to 2025
- Economies recover differently after each recession
- Yet, capitalist economies want to grow
- Rates will be higher FOREVER
- Some ratios valuing US market are highest we’ve ever seen
- Stocks won’t drastically outperform bonds the next decade so why take on the risk?
- Bonds used to be disaster insurance but now they actually can provide a return
- Companies aren’t going public because it is a hassle so this will lead to more private credit and alternative investing opportunities
- They have a US$ bond ETF that I will take a look at
Alternative Investing Panel
- You will be hearing more about this from us as the space becomes more ‘retail investor’ friendly
- 4 main areas – 1) Private equity, 2) Private credit, 3) Absolute return (long / short), 4) Opportunistic
- They are doing things we can’t do like shorting a sector, taking activist positions
- Picton Mahoney was part of panel and said equities have outperformed the usual soft-landing narrative
- US household equity ownership at prior market peaks
- Market pricing in good news and inflation story is not over
Veritas
- Veritas acts more of less like a forensic accountant but they do have macro views
- The S&P 500 is up based on multiple expansion and this weighs on seven companies
- Earnings expectations are high
- Canadian market relatively cheap
- Inflation could be stickier than expected
- The yield curve has un-inverted
- Neither the bond or equity market seems concerned with the 2 points above
- Earnings and growth expectations are bullish
- NVDA investing in ‘customers’ who are then buying product from NVDA. Seems odd
- S&P 500 up 53% since low of Oct 2022, 7% of this is earnings and 46% is multiple expansion
Retained learnings
- Avoid embarrassing losses (does this mean they are OK if not embarrassing?)
- Being negative is alluring because you sound smart (even when you are wrong)
- Being early is like being wrong
- Stay humble
AND:
- If something sounds too good to be true, it probably is (there is no free lunch especially with investing)
- Cash flow more important than earnings (top line vs bottom line)
- Notes in financial statements more important than management commentary
- Emotions have no place in investment decisions
Regards,
Todd Kennedy
